Sunday Recap – A Worship Dilemma

On July 9, 2012 by Eddie

Every week, our team sits down and plans what song we’re going to do on Sundays. I typically take a first stab at a set list, and then we pick it apart and swap things out. Lately, as we’ve been discussing songs we’ve noticed a dilemma – and we need some help.

Here’s what we’ve been noticing: over the years, as “modern worship” songs have developed and become more widely spread, they have drifted toward the top end of the “singability” range. I’m one of the worst culprits of this: write a song with a super low verse full of emotion, then a chorus that’s high and screamy that makes people shout (which means you can’t lower or raise the key of the song). It works in youth environments, and in arenas full of people gathered for a worship event. Not coincidentally, arenas and youth groups are the places where most of our current worship songs are born and recorded. The songs that come from these events are very cool, and they’re inspiring to listen to in the car or in the right worship environment.

But here’s the problem – people that come to a church service at 9am typically aren’t in the “arena-rock, shout your guts out and get all sweaty” mindset. I, for one, don’t feel like shouting and jumping when I get here on Sunday mornings, and I don’t have to wrangle kids to get out the door. Consequently, when we do these songs on Sundays, they never quite come off with the passion and corporate fervor that you hear on the recording, or even on a Night of Worship.

Now, contrast that with this Sunday. We introduced Matt Redman’s “10,000 Reasons,” which has quickly become my favorite worship song. It was quiet, beautiful, subtle, and easy to sing; the opposite of the typical rock-song vibe we use. People jumped in immediately and sang it like they’d been singing it their entire lives. And it’s not a “dumb” song, either. It’s got a lot of lyrics, the melody of the chorus is different with every phrase. It’s really a modern hymn, but people sang like crazy.

So, that has lead us to a big question: “Are we shooting over the heads of our church, for the sake of doing cool music?” Fifteen years ago, we were singing “praise choruses,” and if you think about it, those songs had simple melodies that were very singable (side note – many were written in alto girl keys, which are easier for guys to sing than the current songs we try to pull off), and you could hear the church sing them like crazy. The same goes for hymns, and for some of the worship songs in our recent history (“Everlasting God” comes to mind).

So I’ll include our set list below – it was a great Sunday, one of the best we’ve had in a while as far as worship is concerned. Plus, Chinua and Chris Blackwell were incredible for pre-service music. But more than that, I’d love to know your thoughts…

How do we balance the need to do “current” sounding music, but making it singable for our audience? Do we need to take a step back in order to move forward?

Set List:

Pre-service: Signed, Sealed, Delivered – Stevie Wonder, Sailing – Christopher Cross, Stand By Me – Ben E. King

Worship: Blessed Be Your Name – Anthony Evans’ Version, 10,000 Reasons – Matt Redman

38 Responses to “Sunday Recap – A Worship Dilemma”

  • I typically love all of the music played at NPCC & I love to sing along. I’m not vocally gifted – so sometimes I may sing a bit off key. ;) I go to the 11:00 service – and I think the songs that have been played have been great. I tend to like it when there are one or two more upbeat songs & then it is brought down a bit. Maybe the songs are perceived differently at the 9:00 service? The loud music can be a bit off-putting to older people who attend the church – but I think that it is well received by most of the people attending. And it’s kinda nice for the music to be loud….that way everyone can’t hear me sing off key. ;)

    But if the new direction of music seems to be an issue at the 9:00…maybe you could make the 9:00 service a throw-back service to earlier and easier times. :) I don’t think I’ve helped very much….oh well. Thank you for planning and facilitating a wonderful worship service for me on a weekly basis. :)

    • Thanks Melanie! Just to be clear- there isn’t a “new direction” for our music. These are just questions we’re asking, and the feedback is really helpful.

  • Love that you’re asking this! It’s been something I’ve been wrestling as I consider other female worship leaders. I think sometimes the female leadership is diminished simply because there aren’t many songs we do right now that are suitable for them to lead… but that must mean they aren’t suitable for a large portion of the audience to sing, either.

    Our set list this Sunday included a little of everything, and it was SO refreshing to hear the people singing- loudly- even with a brand new song. I think this very reason you’re discussing is why they were singing.

    Anyhoo- thanks, Eddie!

  • Very good points. Well taken. I am personally drawn to songs that have a less “broad” range, but tend to key them high (I have a “Tomlin” vocal range – don’t know if you’ve ever heard “Your Mighty Hand”, but that’s beside the point), but if I’m in a service with more adults I usually drop my set one step. I think, since we are “whole” people – you can’t separate our minds from our bodies, or our hearts from our heads – I key songs just to the point where the average person has to put forth a LITTLE effort to sing the high parts because what we do with our bodies affects our hearts, heads, & spirits. However, I do know of those days – I give myself permission to not fake my worship. And I don’t lead many Hillsong tunes, because many of those have too broad a range. ;-) Great post, Eddie… glad to find your blog!

  • Eddie, you are right on. As an older worship leader (an ancient 50), I have been watching this progression over the past decade. The new songs are great and have kept worship fresh for the church and especially the next generation. I love them. But I tend to feel that the new songs are written as much for recording (and marketing and sales???) as for worship. I’m actually OK with this. But this means that not all songs fit weekend church worship. I have personally categorized in my mind the difference between “worship service” songs and “worship concert” songs. Both are great; both have their place. We must hold this dilemma in tension as we listen to and choose songs for each of our unique church settings.

    By the way, HERE AND NOW has become a powerful worship song for our church, but it has the wide vocal range. As we discussed using this song, we had to decide if we were going to “bend the rules” a bit and use the song. For us, it was meaningful and powerful enough to bend the rules. Thanks for a great song!

    • Thanks man. And yes, “here and now” is the opposite of this idea!

  • “How do we balance the need to do “current” sounding music, but making it singable for our audience? Do we need to take a step back in order to move forward?”

    First of all, thanks for posing this question and asking for input! It speaks volumes to your heart and genuine concern on the topic. Here are my humble thoughts:
    I think that the use of secular music on occasion is critical to the mission statement at North Point Ministries. I view this application as “performance songs”, which can sometimes invoke participation of the audience. It sets a tone of familiarity in the ears of the audience and “breaks the ice” for those who do not regularly attend service, creating a distinct comfort level for them. “Singability” isn’t really critical here.
    Likewise, modern Christian music usually maintains that secular feel, but adds lyrics that speak to the soul and create the Worship environment. I believe that rhythm, melody, range, phrasing and lyrics absolutely have to be easy to follow so as to take the pressure off of the audience to worry about those things and simply Worship God! Songs like “God of Wonders”, “Blessed Be Your Name”, “You Never Let Go” are easy to sing lyrical staples that capture those characteristics. People need to be encouraged to feel the connection with God and not get lost in the technicalities of the music. Regardless, it is a “…joyful noise unto the Lord”.
    So, my easy answer to your question is, “why reinvent the wheel”? But the dilemma for the songwriter is, “how do you express your music in a universally singable way and still express yourself and grow as a musician / worship leader”?
    As a Worship singer, I have had to grow with the music we sing by expanding my range to accommodate certain songs, which are usually voiced for females — singing down the octave doesn’t fit the song(s). But there are still limits.
    It seems that there may be two directions to flow — performance-based songs and Worship-based songs.
    For the average person, this isn’t really practical. So, I think that a more flowing, mid-range, lyrical approach to songwriting and song selection for Worship is the best bet, writing more to the mid-range than the stratosphere. Maybe save some of the more challenging choices for performance songs, reflection songs, or openers/closers rather than general Worship. Those who are comfortable with singing along will. Those who are not comfortable won’t feel compelled to sing.

  • I don’t think you are doing anything wrong with the modern worship selections, I just think there are seasons where simplicity is refreshing and needed. The song “10,000 Reasons” had the same affect on our congregation because it’s just an anointed song. I think you just responded to the Spirit’s prompting and it worked out well. I was feeling this way recently with our congregation, like maybe i was introducing new songs too frequently. I made a rule for the rest of the year to not introduce any new songs, and what happened was the congregation began to request new music on their own. “10,000 Reasons” was the first rule breaker. I admire your honesty and ability to work through this with your Church.

  • I love thinking about this question. Every worship leader wants to see the congregation singing their guts out and giving it up for Jesus, right? I know I do. I think some of the questions I’ve been facing have really been answered here. I love singing awesome songs that have huge ranges and are so passionate, but my congregation sings so much louder and better to old hymns or simple songs with narrow ranges. Every once in a while I see our church hit a “sweet spot” in worship and really get after it singing their lungs out to “Jesus Son of God” or “Here and Now.” We just finished a sermon series on Amos, and “Here and Now” has really been a hit at our church. Overall, I think it’s important for people in my church to feel confident singing a certain amount of worship, but I also see a responsibility as their leader to challenge and stretch them. Now my question is what is the proper balance to the tension.

    • Hmmm…what is our responsibility to grow and stretch the people we lead? Good question… Worth some more thought for sure.

  • I absolutely agree that Sunday mornings are not the time to pull of the latest upbeats from Hillsong or Passion. I’ve been noticing exactly what you described the last couple years, but hadn’t articulated it like you just did.

    I think this dilemma is true even in student or college environments depending on the size of the crowd. I honestly haven’t seen a “We Shine” or “Solution” be pulled off well in any smaller environment. In high school, our student ministry had 200-300 kids, and even there it felt awkward as a band member doing these songs sometimes.

    If I were starting a college gathering today, I would make the band as small as possible and avoid any “put your hands together” types.

    Good thoughts, and BTW, you’re one of my favorite worship leaders. Been in gatherings at Catalyst and Bigstuf where you’ve led.

    • I definitely understand the “awkwardness,” I’ve been in those moments as well. Most of the time, it seems to happen when I’m imitating someone else and trying to replicate their success.

  • Great post, Eddie. I really admire songs like “10,000 Reasons” because its power and emotion come from original, thoughtful lyrics and refined, polished song crafting. In other words, it doesn’t have to rely on the trendy “octave switeroo” thing to get a reaction. Oftentimes, what we perceive as a modern sounding song is simply a song that leans too heavily on melodic gimmicks instead of working to find meaningful, thoughtful lyrics and a memorable, singable hook.

    For example, we recently introduced “Your Love Never Fails” — one of my favorite songs. But people complained the rhythms in the verses were not congregational-singing-friendly. I thought about it, and I decided they were somewhat right. I get the feeling like some modern songwriters throw meter and structure out the window. They decide what they want to say and then do their best to cram all the words into the song. The harder but more rewarding path to take (as exemplified by “10,000 Reasons”) is to keep searching and reworking the song until it fits just right and feels natural.

    A lot of Tomlin and Redman songs can be learned and sung upon first hearing — like you’ve known it all your life. That’s great songwriting if you ask me! And that frees up people to worship more fully and freely.

    • Upate! I just came across an interview with Matt Redman about “10,000 Reasons” in Worship Leader Magazine: http://worshipleader.com/song-story-10000-reasons/

      He talks about how lyrical hooks can help congregations learn songs more quickly and how he’s taken cues from country music writers. Very interesting read! He also said this song came to him rather quickly, so I may have misspoken in my original comment. My bad…

  • As an older worshipper (not ancient, but pushing 60) I have been through hymns only, gospel, praise choruses, contemporary Christian….. I am grateful for my heritage, and thankful we now do a better job of singing to God and not just about Him. You are right–the music needs to be singable, but I think a little challenging musically lest we revert back to mindless repeats of a too simple chorus line. I also agree with Bill that most of Tomlin and Redman songs are very user friendly with powerful messages.
    I have a question for the worship leaders–do you ever consider having some scripture read or possibly up on the screens as a part of the worship? As much as I love music, it seems a little narrow minded to me that most of us consider worship as music only when the Word is so powerful. I know all about the flow and being the church for the unchurched, but you all are so creative–I am sure that you could figure out a way to incorporate the spoken Word a little more into your Worship sets–just a thought.
    Thanks for your intentional ministry–a grateful worshipper.

    • Great thought about using scripture more. Definitely something I’ll be thinking about. Like you said, there’s got to be a way to do that in our environment while still not alienating people in the room.

  • I think the short answer to this is…churches that have the ability, need to be writing songs for their congregation. Hillsong is writing songs suitable for their church. Bethel is writing songs for their church. And as we’ve discussed, they sometimes write songs that are very rangy (I still love them though, and love leading them). I believe the atmosphere and culture of these churches dictate what kind of sound and range the song is given. I think the more “charismatic” a church is, the more you can expect vocally from a congregation. Some of these songs translate well to other churches while other don’t. The beauty of writing songs for your own church is you already have a good idea of what works and what kind of “enthusiasm” is exuded on a typical Sunday morning. I don’t believe we should coddle a congregation, but by writing our own songs, we can bring tailor made songs that will fit our church just right.

    • Very cool thought. Maybe this stems from not having localized expressions of worship. I think the challenge for me specifically is finding a way to not imitate the things other songwriters do, especially those who are very successful, even subconsciously.

  • This is an issue that we have dealt with for some time at my church. I have found that it is usually us (the music people) that push to stay current and usually end up pushing right past our congregation. It’s true that there are less and less “sing-a-long” songs coming out, but there was an abundance of them 5 – 10 years ago. Consider this: no one listens to as much worship music as you do. There are songs that I pull out now that I am absolutely sick of because I’ve listened to them a billion times. The vast majority of my congregation hasn’t heard them since the last time we did them during a service or a Night of Worship. I would imagine pulling out an early Crowder, Tomlin, or Baloche song that you’ve done a hundred times will still be fresh to your congregation. We’re using newer material as openers as long as they stick with the NP idea of starting broad and narrowing the focus as we go. As an opener, you’re not asking or expecting a lot of involvement from the congregation. . .it’s more of an attention getter. If they jump on the new song, put it in rotation.

    Btw. . .10,000 Reasons is awesome.

  • As a weekly participant At the 11 AM service I look forward to what you and the team will lead us into spectacular worship. This is the highlight of my week.
    I agree with you that this past Sunday was on point and especially powerful.
    I find great therapy in singing my heart out and weeping as I offer my praise to the Lord.
    So, from the point of view of one of the thousands in the crowd…there is much to be grateful for how the team builds the set list. I don’t think there is an issue or something to fix.
    If I could have a vote…I’d request re-introducing some of Steve Fee’s songs from his Hope Rising album.

  • Hey Eddie … Aussie Dave here. Great questions you’re wrestling with mate. Ultimately it’s about the worship team serving it’s own ends – or the service’s. And it’s not just vocally – what about those songs with big guitar solos (Lincoln Brewster’s version of Salvation is Here or Everlasting God for example)? What is the congregation to do during that 8-12 bar instrumental while the musicians are patting themselves on the back? They stand there watching. I try to redeem that time by leading a prayer, encouraging the people to speak to God directly or having scripture appear onscreen for the community to read.
    I think your focussed question on a song is also part of a larger question about the entire set. I used to pick Sunday worship sets the same way I would an arena concert setlist – start big, journey to quieter section – maybe unplugged … then build toward a big ending. Hard to do with 3-4 songs of worship to open a service though. There’s not enough time to go through that roller coaster emotional ride in 20 minutes of worship.
    Now I choose to head in one direction depending on the tone of the teaching pastor’s message. If it’s upbeat, then I try to head toward an upbeat finale to musical worship. If it’s a mellow or emotional message, then I make the set travel toward that destination. Great stuff dude.

    • Thanks Dave! I’ll be up in your neck of the woods next week visiting family. Looking forward to some cooler weather!

  • If anyone is interested – you can watch NPCC’s last Sunday’s music and message Wed, 7/11, at 8PM at North Point Online http://northpointonline.tv/ The pre-service music set starts at 7:45PM so get there early to catch the amazing Chinua and Chris Blackwell.

    Our last Night of Worship was all Hymns and it was one of the first times the crowd was singing as loud as the band was playing. I think that you have just explained why. It was our best NoW ever. (yes, I tend to say that after all the NoWs but THIS time I mean it!)

    As a bass, I have difficulty singing along with the worship leader on more than one of the “new” songs. I usually drop down but feel weird doing it so I sing softer. It seems all the songs are written by and for tenors.

    I’ve been singing 10,000 reasons all week. I look forward to singing it on Sunday more.

  • Eddie,
    I’ve run into this issue in the past. It’s the issue of trying to balance sing-ability with high energy: singing songs that are in a key that the majority can sing while still singing in a key that the worship leader can lead/sing strongly, while trying to play them in a key that has a good feel and full of energy. Because there’s nothing worse than a congregation singing lifelessly the praises of God — it’s discouraging to those leading worship and the fellow congregants.

    A worship mentor of mine (who was at Perimeter Church for many years) always told me to keep the range between “A” and “d1.” This is hard for us tenors who love to sing in our sweet spot of “g1″ and “a1″

    We worship leaders, who lead a congregation, should write more songs for their particular congregation, thinking of “Aunt Jane” who can’t sing a note and “Uncle Bob” who doesn’t feel comfortable singing above his normal speaking voice. Just a thought.

  • Here is my take on this topic. Before I begin, let me say that I have been in worship bands in some configuration since I was 14. I am blessed to say that I am able to play drums for a large Atlanta church with some great people who are not only great musicians but wonderful souls as well. And to be blessed with remuneration for such work is also awesome.

    Above anything else, our task as worship leaders & musicians is to glorify God in song. I truly believe that we are responsible for tilling the soil, if you will, and preparing the congregation in mind, body & soul for the message that will be brought forth by whomever is appointed to do so. In my opinion, worship music should be a way to not only glorify our Savior but to provide a way for the worshippers to forget about the outside world, open their hearts and let the word of God beome truth to them. A lot of people come in (myself included) with burdens from their everyday life that can sometimes inhibit them from hearing God’s word. There is a saying that music soothes the savage soul or something to that effect. What better way to soften up someone’s heart or mind than to engage them in singing about God’s great love for us all? Therefore I think it is essential that while we as musicians might enjoy something more challenging or complex both lyrically or musically (this includes singability in my opinion) what needs to be remembered is that most worshippers AREN’T musicians. If something is too difficult musically (rhythmically, complex w/multiple key changes or otherwise) I truly believe you lose your worshippers. And I will go out on a limb and say that I am not a huge fan of complex “Black Gospel” (for lack of a better term) music with lots of pushes, starts & stops, time changes & key changes and constant gymnasics (instrumentally & vocally) that occur in this genre. I think it becomes too cacophonous and confusing to the average worshipper who simply want to praise God and clap along.

    A perfect example of how a simple song is effective is Chris Tomlin’s Our God. To date I have probably played this song in one format or another at least a hundred times or more. This is a song with no more than 6 chords in the entire song, a VERY simple groove (throughout part of the song you don’t even play the kick drum) and the words are so simple yet so effective. Every time, and I mean EVERY time, I am in a service where this song is in the set 90% or MORE of the worshippers are engaged, singing and really grasping the concept of this song. 10,000 Reasons is another. Just a very simple song that is easy to sing for the most part with a VERY powerful message. Isn’t that what we are supposed to be doing? Finding those songs that have the message that we ALL can relate to and sing with all of our heart and soul, regardless of whether we can sing or not?

    “And if our God is for us, then who could ever stop us? And if our God is with us, then what could stand against?” Awesome. Not challenging musically but very effective. So, to sum it all up, I DO believe that we overshoot our audience at times. Remember that music and in particular worship music is not a competition to see how many notes we can play, how many times we can change keys or how long we can hold a note. Its about touching our audience and bringing them closer to God.

    And on a side note….Eddie, your version of How He Loves is my favorite. I have heard & played several versions of this song and your version moves me. Thanks.

  • Eddie,

    As the others have noted – great question. We always need to be introspective – about all things – but maybe mostly about the intent and need. Edgy for the sake of edgy to bring about the proclamation of “edgy” certainly can hit the mark – but as well, it might tend towards missing the mark.

    I think NP’s done a good job of mixing it up – but your question caused me to consider all of the worship I’ve been a part of at NP. Something I don’t recall hearing is an intentional song that is preceded by the encouragement to just sit and listen to the words – the message God’s put into the heart of the singer and the talents of the band.

    That might be kinda cool – stop, stay still, listen closely, close your eyes – contemplate the song (no words on the screen…). Then “sing-ability” for that song would be much, much less important???

    Keep on bro…

  • Eddie,

    I am not a music person and I may not belong in this conversation. But I am reminded of you in servant-leadership leading us in a hymn around a camp fire and Pastor Reed “almost” crying because of it. Maybe it is because I am older now but give me depth. 10,000 reasons is a great example of depth for me.

    Thanks

    • David! Thanks for writing in, and yes, I vaguely remember that – and now I understand it a whole lot better than I did then.

  • Love what you shared Eddie and your insights. Here are just some thoughts of mine, related to the general topic:

    I appreciate worship songs with meaningful lyrics, but too often it seems like the melody was an after-thought.

    It would seem that worship is mostly for the believers in the house, but I usually judge a song by how an unchurched person would receive it. In that case, too much passion and not enough polish is not good. I’ve experienced contemporary worship at other popular churches and often feel like I’m glad I didn’t have a new outsider, visiting with me. Rarely felt that way at NP.

    I’ve heard you folks write for male worshipers, key wise. If so, I think that’s such a good call, since guys are the ones least confident in their singing ability. I’m a good example. I love to sing, but don’t sing well. So I most often sit on a front row or isle, just so I disturb as few people as possible.

    The old hymns at the last N.O.W. were cool, but it made me think – some of the “old” contemporary worship songs from 10-15 years ago were pretty cool as well and it would be nice to see some of them resurrected for short periods of time.

    Recently saw someone reference this article and at first glance, I mostly disagreed with the author. But I wonder if anyone else has read it and found anything helpful in it, regarding references to music in the modern church. http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/june/when-are-we-going-to-grow-up.html?start=1

  • I love the worship music at NPCC and have a few comments:

    The church that I went to in Dallas had a choir which I loved and miss dearly. While I certainly understand that NPCC music for the most part is not conducive to a choir, have you considered a small group accompanying the team on a somewhat regular basis.

    I also love it when the music tapers off so the voices of the congregation shine through and would love to see that more regularly.

    I agree that 10,000 reasons is an awesome worship song. Songs like that which people are already familiar with promote strong worship. What about other Chris Tomlin song?

    • We have considered something like a choir from time to time. It will happen eventually, we just have to find the right week for it to happen. I don’t know if it will be semi-regular, but never say never, right?

  • We’ve come a solution to this dilemma at my church. We rarely do songs in the recorded key, especially Chris Tomlin songs. Even with 10,000 Reasons, we usually drop it to F or E, as that F# over middle C in the chorus when in the key of G is a stretch for tenors and sopranos alike. Bob Kauflin’s “Worship Matters” book recommends keeping congregation songs between D and D. We try to stick to that guideline, knowing that B to B works better for female lead songs. “Worship Matters” is a great book. You should check it out.

  • hey man. i really appreciate your blog and comments and think its great for us as leaders to make sure that we keep answering the “why” questions of ministry. we should never just keep doing things because we’ve always done them that way, even if it’s a new cool thing to do.

    i haven’t read everyone’s response so i don’t know if this has been said or not. i believe context is everything. we should always be looking at the context of where we are ministering and respond accordingly.

    for example, the first church that i was lead worshipper at was a 75 year-old church with lots of 40 year olds to 80 year olds. the pastor was trying to move the church to reach younger folks and thats why i was hired. so we started doing more current music. because the church was used to one way of doing things, we had to keep that in mind. i looked at all the hymns and songs that they were used to doing and then changed the keys of the new songs so the high notes didn’t go higher than what they were used to singing. this didn’t stop the criticisms of changing the music but at least i knew that they “could” sing the songs if they wanted to. this changed over the 5 years of my ministry there. we began raising the key little by little because we were reaching more young people and people that didn’t have the backdrop of years of church so they didn’t know any different and were fine with it being loud and high. that’s what they expected because that’s all they knew.

    so when we moved out here to texas to start a brand new church, i knew God had used that time to prepare me for this new ministry. our first 3 months we didn’t do one song that i knew before we started the church, and they were mainly fast, 4 on the floor, upbeat tunes that would be done at teen camp. this was on purpose. i wanted people who had been to church before to realize that we weren’t going to be doing things the way they’d always done them, so if we aren’t the church for you that’s totally cool. we’re on the same team so check out the other churches in the community, by the way here’s a few of the pastors that we really have connected with and we know that they preach the gospel. but for those people that had not been in church a while or ever, this did not phase them a bit. this is what Catalyst Community Church is like and i think i wanna stick around. it’s loud and high but it’s who we are and they sing out like crazy. even songs that i think are a little more difficult than a normal congregation would be able to sing, they sing strong the first week. they are used to how we do things and are comfortable with it. they’ve learned to adapt and pick up on things quickly.

    i know that this doesn’t work everywhere and i know that many of the worship leaders out there must adapt the current songs for their congregation. that’s exactly what they should do! we must all do that. we must all recognize our context and recognize the call that God has placed on each of us, and move forward accordingly.

    i hope that this makes since and helps you as you develop the philosophy of worship at NP and beyond. love you man and so proud of what you’re a part of. keep it up.

  • I love worship too much, please how can i be a good worshiper . Thank you for your help may God bless u.

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